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Straight Shooter skrev dette:
saw your post and got interested, when I saw the description of the gun...I was born and raised in Lueneburg, but only about 40 years ago so not quite the age of your drilling.
Anyway, since I never heard of Willi Karl or any reference to him, incl. the current local gunsmiths (which is sort of unusual, since Lueneburg is a fairly small town with many shops and businesses with long history), I was googling around a little bit.
Willi Karl appears to be the founder (and re-founder after WWII) of Lueneburgs shooting club, so it is well possible that he was working as a gunsmith at some time or at least running a gunsmith building as well.
I also found some more detailed info on the web which might give a couple hints (quote from other site):
"Willi [Karl] (1887-1979) was in business with his father, Franz (1858-1925) until his father's death. Both were from Suhl. Willi learned his trade at a gun factory and was a journeyman lock maker and stocker. He also apprenticed to learn barrel making, rifling, finishing, and engraving. His master certificate (1911) had the note "Very Good."
From 1914-1918 he worked at the royal arsenal in Spandau on development of machine guns.The shop, at the time your gun was made, was at Rotestr. 7 in Lueneburg. His trademark was a "Suelfmeister" or master salter. Saltmaking was a traditional source of wealth for the city. I think that there is a statue representing one in the town."
Obviously, the info regarding the gun does not refer to yours, but other than that, the info in that post sounds reasonable. The shops' address now houses a bike shop - the Sulfmeister part also makes sense (still annual Sülfmeister festivales in Lueneburg every year).
If you won't get better or more input here, you might want to check: http://www.germanguns.com/
Good luck with that, I am sure it is a nice piece of art
Nimrod3004 skrev dette:
this ia a really nice gun.
The actions is the original anson action from kerner, Suhl.
Yes " Sülfmeister" is the tademark from Karl/ Lüneburg.
But Willy Karl was only the dealer.
The gun was made in Suhl.
I know the Schmidt & Habermann company has made the guns for Willy Karl.
I have one doublerifledrilling built 1939 from Schmidt & Habermann ,
withe the same engraving and from the same engraver.
The label from Schmidt & habermann was" EsH".
maybe you can find this little stamp on the barrels or on the action.
The Singletrigger "triumpf " was patented from Siegfried Günter from Suhl.
He was a engraver and gunmaker, and have a lot of own constructions.
......and Schmidt & Habermann has work together with Siegried Günther
The stock from your gun is not original, and the action is new nitriert or gray etching.
The barrels are maybe reblued.
Please let me know if you have more questions.
can you send me better picture -maybe on PM?
sorry for my bad english..
best regards nimrod