WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ryddet i kjelleren til min onkel, og fant noen riflepatroner. Kule diameter 8,15 mm. Hylselengde 57 mm. Det står 13 38 P151 s* i bunnen på hylsa. Ser ut til at det kansje er sporlys prosjektil, da det er et svart belte i tuppen på kula. Kan dette være fra krigens dager ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Vinje Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 8x57IS. Antakelig krigspatron, men ikke sporlys - panserbrytende. Brukt i Mauser M98 og i MG-34, MG-42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pos357 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Feil svart tupp på tysk 8x57 ammo er sporlys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Vinje Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Takk - der lærte jeg noe nytt! Men "Feil svart tupp?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
høggern Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 tysk 7,92X57 IS, (sannsynligvis Lot 13), produsert i 1938 av Rheinisch-Westfalische Sprengstoffwerke, Nurnberg-Stadeln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Ryddet i kjelleren til min onkel, og fant noen riflepatroner.Kule diameter 8,15 mm. Hylselengde 57 mm. Det står 13 38 P151 s* i bunnen på hylsa. Ser ut til at det kansje er sporlys prosjektil, da det er et svart belte i tuppen på kula. Kan dette være fra krigens dager ?? What is it painted on the primer, and in what shape? And at the holster neck, is it painted there? if so ,in what color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 What is it painted on the primer, and in what shape? And at the holster neck, is it painted there? if so ,in what color? The primer has a red painted ring. The catridge case neck, has no paint. The catridge is slightly coated with verdigris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Well then it is a practice, light pointed bullet with a steel core, and it is a tracer + it has auto destruction system also And as written the markings is as follows 13 38 P151 S* Lot 13. Production Year 38. Rheinisch Westfälische Sprengstoff A.G Werk Nürnberg Stadeln And the S* indicates that it is a Brass Cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thank you Riddesrsholm, for good information, but what exactly is "auto destruction system" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thank you Riddesrsholm, for good information, but what exactly is "auto destruction system" ? Found also more information on this page:http://www.mausershooters.org/k98k/8_ident.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thank you Riddesrsholm, for good information, but what exactly is "auto destruction system" ? Found also more information on this page:http://www.mausershooters.org/k98k/8_ident.html It is an excellent site for information, it add up whit the things in my books But, how much is the bullet painted whit black? And the Steel core is actually armor piercing (just so you don't shoot it and think it is not) The self destruction system is a small charge right behind the tracer charge, when then the tracer charge is burned through it will get to the self destruction charge and simply make i blow the tale of the bullet, and making it go to the ground, it was only a practice round, and if the soldier had a miss fire, it would not fly that fare, and hurt civilians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 According to " K98 Mauser Page" , my catridge is the : S.m.K.L'Spur (Spitzgeschoss mit Stahlkern und Leuchtspur) Pointed bullet with steel core, tracer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well then it is a Armor Piercing tracer round used in combat, it does not have auto destruction system Still fun though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 På godt "norsk" blir det altså: Sporlys Prosjektil med Stålkjerne (Panserbrytende). Dette skulle vel være riktig, eller hva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN3006FEATHERW Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Nå gjenstår det bare å finne et Kammer å putte den inn i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 På godt "norsk" blir det altså: Sporlys Prosjektil med Stålkjerne (Panserbrytende). Dette skulle vel være riktig, eller hva? Yes that is correct And yes i agree it is not fun to find funny ammo and not having the weapon to fire it whit, that is why i have a little of everything used in the second world war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per-S Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Jeg husker ikke alle kodene for hylsemateialer, men S* mener jeg er kobberplettert stålhylse, kan du prøve med magnet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddersholm Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Jeg husker ikke alle kodene for hylsemateialer, men S* mener jeg er kobberplettert stålhylse, kan du prøve med magnet? Well * or S* is brass And St or St+ is a steel case, either plated or lacquered And a combination of a roman numeral is for the steel mill supplying the basic case metal, identifies it is a copper plated steel case And as you said i have just tested this whit a magnet, i have rounds whit all of the markings above, and it is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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