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Hello,

 

i am just wondering. Norway has long term tradition of usage of silencers during hunting and sport shooting. In Poland for example silencers are not forbidden or registered item, but no one sells them officially. You guys have many good brands/manufacturers - can you recommend good dealer or brand for below threads/calibers?

 

1. 223rem M13x1 LH

2. 223rem 1/2"x28 UNEF

3. 338LM M18x1 Sako / no spigot

4. 22LR 1/2×28

5. 9mm 13.5 X 1 Left Hand

 

thanks,

Maciej

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Wikipedia has this to say:

 

In Poland, suppressors are not classified as "important weapon parts". Therefore, they are completely legal in all calibers, requiring no registration or permit. However using suppressors (even installing) with a firearm is prohibited. Only police and military are allowed to use them.

 

I don't know if this correct or not, but it might be worth checking out just to make sure.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor#Europe" target="_blank

 

Hvordan er det med dere som drar på jaktreiser til Polen, pleier dere å få bruke lyddemper eller ikke?

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Wikipedia has this to say:

In Poland, suppressors are not classified as "important weapon parts". Therefore, they are completely legal in all calibers, requiring no registration or permit. However using suppressors (even installing) with a firearm is prohibited. Only police and military are allowed to use them.

I don't know if this correct or not, but it might be worth checking out just to make sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor#Europe" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

 

Hvordan er det med dere som drar på jaktreiser til Polen, pleier dere å få bruke lyddemper eller ikke?

 

Hi Lindskog, thanks for asking because this is interesting topic. In polish law many things changed in march 2011. Since that month we have new law which completely changed situation of sport shooters/gun collectors/hunters and so on. Previously it was up to Police to decide who should own firearm, now in Firearms and Ammo Act you have specified terms which obligate police has to formally approve firearms ownership. Since that we could welcome many new sport shooters and gun collectors.

 

Anyway in PL administration or Police may act only based on law. And there is no single law which forbids ownership, manufacturing, usage, sellout or purchase of silencers. No single law. So first senctence is 100% true: "In Poland, suppressors are not classified as "important weapon parts". Therefore, they are completely legal in all calibers, requiring no registration or permit."

 

But second one is not correct. We have one entry/ in firearms act: (free translation) "Administration may not issue approval for ownership of firearm equipped with silencer or adapted to be used with silencer" And we have really weird situation in Poland in regards to silencers because that specific point is not enforced at all!. Which is really weird, usually police administration dept. doesn't support shooters. I mean we own (police issued approvals for ownership) many firearms with muzzle device and barrel thread. So that way each new rifle or carbine might be used with silencers. There are silencers which don't need adapters or thread to be mounted on barrel. An we have hundreds or thousands of firearms to which this point refers to.

 

So you can use silencer, buy silencer, own silencer, sell silencer. It is just police should not approve permit you already have for your firearm you already own. (you name it: AKMS, AR15, HK416, HK USP SD or other pistol with longer barrell, SAKO, TIKKA, REMINGTON etc)

 

So finally many sport shooters and collectors are buying in Norway or UK, or in DE via egun.de, or manufacturing and using silencers on trainings. We just don't brag about it to not be confronted with some policeman which has no idea what the law currently is. In PL suppressors are still perceived (not taking into account that we are using silencers on daily basis in our cars and bikes) as assasin or special forces tools, not as a device reducing dangerous noise from 160 to still quite loud 130 dB..

 

ps.

I am representing also polish organization - Citizen Movement for Firearms >ROMB< http://romb.org.pl/" target="_blank" target="_blank and we are changing public approach to firearms in Poland. An we will change sooner or later approach to silencers.

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Hvordan er det med dere som drar på jaktreiser til Polen, pleier dere å få bruke lyddemper eller ikke?

 

i missed that one: In Poland hunting is done very traditionally, everybody who tried knows that. (of course as guests you can have different experiences than local hunter) I am not hunter but i participated in huntings. You may not or you should not do many things, including usage of NV, suppressors, hearing protectors with hearing amplification, sometimes camouflage of military origin is perceived as not proper, some models of carbines and rifles especially military styled are "not proper".

But as mentioned your suppressor is not forbidden item in Poland, it is not "important part of weapon" by the law. If regulations of company arranging your hunting trip to PL or local hunting society don't mind - there is nothing in polish or european law which forbids you usage of silencers.

 

thanks,

Maciej

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ps.

I am representing also polish organization - Citizen Movement for Firearms >ROMB< http://romb.org.pl/" and we are changing public approach to firearms in Poland. An we will change sooner or later approach to silencers.

 

I wish you good luck with this, as it's quite silly that a lot of european countries has a view of silencers that can only be explained with ignorance and having watched too much of hollywood. Loss of hearing is not a joke, for the shooter, his dog or bystanders.

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You should look into starting Poland's first import business of suppressors then :)

 

;) Maybe someone i Norway should cover this, as i still fall under local PL administration. I have to many guns, and unfortunately if i start openly to offer silencers, sooner or later they would find the way to take those firearms away.

I will contact mentioned vendors, if you can recommend any other dealers who would like to sell 5 cans - let me know.

 

thx,

Maciej

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