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51 minutes ago, glockoman said:

Det er samme begrensninger på pipelengde i grovfelt som for militær. I farta er bare NAIS, revolver og magnum jeg kommer på som er uten begrensninger på pipelengde.

det stemmer, maks pipelengde i grov er 153mm. også må den har en anatomisk grep tenker jeg?

i 9mm powerfaktor er for lav til magnum 1 og kulevekt er for lavt.

så den eneste løsningen ville da være å kutte gjenget del av pipe og bruk i militaer.

takk for hjelp.

19 hours ago, orlogs said:

Jeg har lyddempere på alle mine .22 pistoler (A.tec og Hausken), og erfarer at første skudd alltid smeller en god del mer enn de påfølgende. Noen som har en begrunnet forklaring ? Har fått råd om å ta noen dråper vann i demperen før en skyter, men har aldri fått en forklaring på hvorfor det skal hjelpe.

 

det er fordi det er oksygen i lyddemperen før første skudd som expanderes og også får ubrent pulver til å svie lettere.

det første skuddet kan gjøres litt mer stille ved å bruke en gummiskive på enden av lyddemperen men det første skuddet vil alltid være mest støy

16 hours ago, MelvinP said:

Den går vel under grovpistol/1g

Ok takk

8 hours ago, nhd said:

Det er vel å tøye grensene kun for å eie et våpen til uten at det har noe med sportsskyting å gjøre.

tull, hvorfor skulle det strekke grensene? grensene er faste, det får politiets godkjenning eller det gjør det ikke.

hvis det bare passer inn i nais grov fordi løpet er 1,25 cm for langt, betyr ikke det at det ikke har noe å gjøre med sportsskyting.

8 hours ago, glockoman said:

NAIS er vel ikke grunnlag for å få innvilget heller?

ok takk, det svarte på spørsmålet mitt

mini mamba har samme ramme som mamba (ruger 22/45), og er 139,7mm hoy.

Jeg så i vapenkompendium i NSF-delen at NAIS ikke er nevnt i delen om behovsvurdering/bruksområde.

Men er det mulig å ha en semi auto pistol som bare passer inn i nais grov-klassen?

for eksempel en pistol i kaliber 9mm para med 6.5 inch løp. Den passer ikke i Militaer fordi løpet er for langt.

Hei jeg har en liten sporsmal...

i nasjonalt regelverk for pistol, NAIS, jeg leste:

"Fin(8F)Alle våpen, unntatt enkeltskuddspistoler, kamret for 5,6 mm (.22") -8,1mm (.32").  Avtrekksvekt: 1000 g."

"Grov(8G)Alle våpen, unntatt enkeltskuddspistoler, kamret for ≥9 mm, unntatt magnumladninger.  Avtrekksvekt: 1360 g."

fordi magnum er bare nevt som forbudd i beskrivelsen for Grov (8G), og det star bare .22 i stedet for den vanlige .22lr i regelverk fra NSF betyr det at .22 magnum og .30 carbine (faktor 211) er tillatt i Fin(8F)?

On 8/10/2020 at 7:34 PM, Ei tohi varjata said:

If you write a little bit about your prior guns owned back home, what you'll be using the guns for, and budget, we could chime in with some suggestions for what to look at.

 

Ole

about the svt-40, im not sure about that...i have personally seen hundreds of them in german and austrian gun dealer warehouses a few years ago, they aren't as rare as one might think. many of the ones from the batch i saw in germany have been deactivated later because there where no buyers for them and sold for less than 600 euro's including the 200 euro deactivation fee and i know there are still many in stock at the main arms dealers in eastern europe. so customizing or altering one svt-40 wont be that bad. svt-38 is more rare and the avt-38 is a whole different story as they are the really rare ones since they are full auto and only made a few years.

rifles/long guns i had or used from others in the past, recreational shooting and military, most were on loan from a friend who was arms dealer in germany:

oberland arms AO-15

diemaco c7 and c8

mosin nagant m38

svt-40

steyr mannlicher m1895

la coruna FR8

remington 742 woodmaster

cz zkk600

lee enfield no4 mk1

sako finfire

schmidt rubin k31

fortmeier fortek 2001

mauser 71, 88, G98

H&K SL6

M1 carbine

erma sr-100

ruger mini 14

barrett fieldcraft and 98b

remington 700

tikka t3

winchester 1893

pgm ludis

marlin& winchester lever action (not sure which models they were)

and some blackpowder rifles like rolling block and flint/percussion muskets

the main use would be recreational target shooting 100-300m, and some hunting on small game at some point.

budget would be around 80.000NOK maximum but i'd rather use that for several rifles instead of one.

Hi Ole, thank you for your reply.

i didnt think about the lack of primary extraction but now you mention it that does seem like a real problem that would cancel the whole idea. also what you say about the "spooky" part with future law changes.

i guess i just have to look into the regular bolt actions more to find something that is both exclusive and functional.

(i have so many difficult ideas, like for example a revolver or gsp with a Rink formgriff stock and 16 inch barrel to qualify as a rifle but it's always to complicated . i'll learn at some point i guess.

thanks

i read that most semi automatic (military) rifles are not legal anymore for sportshooting and hunting in norway.

but is it legally possible to have a norway gunsmith buy and convert a semi automatic military rifle (like AR-15, garand, svt-40) to manual straight pull action?

(conversion by removing all gas operating parts, and using a barrel without a gas port, like they do in england?)

I have seen the Troy P.A.R rifle for sale in norway but i dont like pump action so that is no option for me.

sorry, it is not possible to convert Glock 20 to 9mm if it has to be reliable.

some people used a lone wolf conversion barrel and a different recoil spring but it has many problems and must be used with +P ammo to get it to cycle and even then will fail many times.

the 1911 22lr copies usually have a zinc alloy slide just like alarmpistols have and they can sometimes break if you accidentally drop it and sometimes after long or rough use.

also because of the zinc alloy you cannot use surface finishes like phosphate or blueing, only paint or cerakote.

the material is a bit similar to moped carburettors.

another problem can be thin barrel, they heat up when you shoot a lot and change the point of impact.

if you use it for fun like plinking its no big problem but if you want to use it for competition or for many years its better to get a real 1911 with a conversion system, or look for a steel 22lr model that looks a bit like 1911.

good luck.

if it is marked 17-5 it is probably not stainless steel but hard chromed after it left the factory.

this is fairly common with 17-5 models.

are there any shooting competitions in norway where a pistol in .30carbine caliber is allowed, like AMT automag 3?

thank you for the reply, it helps very much.

i will be at the forest this summer to have a look how much space there is and make the backstop direct behind the target and as big as possible to catch all bullets and make sure no bullets can escape.

thank you for the link, it is very helpfull

i am not sure yet, i read the exam can be in english but dont know if they do english classes anywhere.

but i will try to do the course in norwegian after i learn better norwegian.

M67, thank you for your reply.

i have a piece of forest on the side of the mountain where i want to shoot at a 25meter target with .22lr rifle.

behind the target there is about 40 meters of my forest before the neighbours part of the forest starts.

my target is a metal bullet trap 1meter high and 1 meter wide.

do i have to make some kind of sand hill behind the target to make sure no bullets go to the neighbours land?

does anyone know how high and wide the sand hill should be so i can safely shoot without breaking any laws?

it is an old forrest with no roads so normally no people go there but i want to make sure it is safe to shoot according to the norwegian rules.

i could also shoot in the direction of the top of the mountain, then i dont need to make a hill to catch the bullets but it is very difficult to change the targets so high on the steep rocks. my forrest goes up almost to the top of the mountain. the mountain is 750 meters high and my forest goes to 450 meters high.

the nearest house is 240 meters behind the shooting bench so i think the noise will be ok.

hi, i am new in norway, i came from the netherlands.

jegerproven is what i hope to do this year or next year and i like rifle shooting and archery.

norway i visited since i was a little baby because my father was born here and lived here many years and most of my family lives here.

i have many things to learn and maybe 100.000 questions because shooting sport and laws were very different in the netherlands.

so far i had mosin karabin 1946, african trade flint musket, high standard supermatic citation, husqvarna rolling block hagle, uberti model 1858, and some other "things"

but now i have no guns because i have to do jegerproven first and become member of the shooting clubs

thank you in advance for all your kind replies. i had many nice replies to my questions sofar, it has been very helpful.

Hei,  Jeg brukte google translate fordi jeg ikke er flink til å skrive

norsk ennå:

Jeg har en skog i fjellsiden omtrent 70 meter bred 
og 450 meter lengde rett opp på fjellet.

Skråningen starter i bunnen 15moh høyde til 
500moh høyde og tomten er flat i bredden.

Jeg vil begynne å skyte med heldempet .22lr rifle
over en avstand på 25 meter.

å skyte i retning toppen av fjellet er bedre, 
men vanskelig å sette et mål, så jeg vil skyte i bredden

for da kan jeg lett sette ned et blinke.

Naboenes tomt starter deretter 40 meter bak kulefellen.

Vet noen hvor høy og bred kulefellen skal være 
slik at naboens eiendom forblir "ufarlig"?

Jeg kan treffe målet helt fint, men vil sørge for 
at det er trygt nok til ikke å komme i trøbbel.

Naboens tomt, som tomten min, er en gammel skog 
uten gang- eller traktorveier.

Det nærmeste huset ligger 240 meter fra skyteplassen, 
bak skytterens rygg og 100m lavere.

Før jeg skyter vil jeg selvfølgelig alltid informere naboen.

Hva råder du til å skyte trygt uten å bryte loven?

51 minutes ago, Vargen said:

 "han hvis navn ikke må nevnes"

ah jeg forstår,
den vanlige historien om turden som ble etterlatt når hjorten allerede er borte

Det kjenner jeg igjen fra da jeg bodde i eu-regionen.

Takk for forklaringen.

Hvilken politiker brakte 5.7x28 løgnen til Norge?  
Han eller hun er veldig feilinformert.
Utrolig at gamle "brady campaign" løgner fra amerikanske demokrater har kommet
til Norge. 

Yes Vargen, i love suppressors and subsonic ammo with heavy bullets.

it is so nice that they are legal in norway.

hello thank you for all your replies.

Ei tohi varjata, i will make sure i dont break any laws and double check all dimensions before building.

Dodraugen, yes Mauser is a better idea, the straight action screws on mauser look easier to work with than the angled ones on mosin, and cheaper ammo is always better as Ei tohi varjata said.

Psg-1,  i will probably make a look-a-like stock with the correct lenght of pull that fits me. i would never think of destroying a MK2S for parts. I have no problem cutting a mauser in half but i will never destroy a sten if i had one. sten is special to me.

if i manage to finish it i will post pictures but it will take a long time, maybe in the summer i start.

i made a poorman photoshop for now.

Dodraugen & Vargen thank you for your reply, it makes me happy

it will be very uncomfortable mosin to shoot but i will try.