Sunnmøring Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Regner med at flere har fått med seg at det er blitt betydelig vanskeligere å kjøpe diverse krutttyper, solventer, oljer og generell våpenkjemi.. Hovedgrunnen er at det er innført strengere krav til leverandørene vedrørende "opplysningsplikt" om blant annet innhold.. Organisasjonen som skal regulere dette er The EU REACH Regulation (Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals – Regulation No 1907/2006. link til: https://www.gicat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GICAT-REACH-guidance-on-ammunition-version-3-.pdf legger også ved en liste over kruttsorter som er godkjent/ikke godkjent.. i listen så vil det stå N/Y bak kruttsorter/produsent Y betyr godkjent for salg.. N betyr at produktet ikke lenger er tillat distribuert i Europa/EU/EØS Manufacturer Product name Exempt from REACH authorisation Notes Hodgdon HP-38 Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon H110 Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon H414 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Hodgdon H380 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Hodgdon Lil' Gun Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon Hybrid 100V Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon HS-6 Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon H335 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Hodgdon BL-C(2) N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Hodgdon Titewad Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon Titegroup Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon Longshot Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon US869 Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon LEVEREVOLUTION Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon SUPERFORMANCE Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon CFE Pistol Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon CFE 223 Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon CFE BLK Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon H4227 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H4895 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H4198 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon Varget N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H4350 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H50BMG N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H4831 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H4831SC N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H1000 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon Retumbo N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon H322 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon Benchmark N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Hodgdon Hi-Skor 700X Y Hodgdon Hi-Skor 800X Y Hodgdon Clays (AS-30N) Y Hodgdon International (AS-50N) Y Hodgdon Universal (AP-70N) Y Hodgdon Trailboss Y Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction) <0.1% Hodgdon Pyrodex P N/A Inconclusive (ingredients witheld as trade secret) Hodgdon Pyrodex RS N/A Inconclusive (ingredients witheld as trade secret) Hodgdon Pyrodex Select N/A Inconclusive (ingredients witheld as trade secret) Hodgdon Triple 7 N/A Inconclusive (ingredients witheld as trade secret) IMR Blue Y IMR Green Y IMR Red Y IMR UnEqual Y IMR IMR 3031 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4007SSC N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4064 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4198 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4227 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4320 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4350 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR SR4756 Y IMR SR4759 Y IMR IMR 4831 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4895 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR SR7625 Y IMR IMR 7828 N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR PB Y IMR IMR 7828SSC N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) IMR IMR 4166 Y IMR IMR 4451 Y IMR IMR 4955 Y IMR IMR 7977 Y IMR IMR 8133 Y IMR IMR 8208 XBR N 2,4-dinitrotoluene (carcinogenic) Alliant Powder Bullseye Y Alliant Powder Power Pistol Y Alliant Powder BE-86 Y Alliant Powder E3 Y Alliant Powder Pro Reach Y Alliant Powder 20/28 Y Alliant Powder Steel Y Alliant Powder Unique Y Alliant Powder Sport Pistol Y Alliant Powder Promo Y Alliant Powder Extra-Lite Y Alliant Powder .410 Y Alliant Powder Herco Y Alliant Powder 2400 Y Alliant Powder Green Dot Y Alliant Powder Blue Dot Y Alliant Powder Red Dot Y Alliant Powder Clay Dot Y Alliant Powder American Select Y Alliant Powder Black MZ Y Alliant Powder Blue MZ Y Alliant Powder Power Pro series Y Alliant Powder AR Comp N Diisopentyl phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Alliant Powder Reloader series N Diisopentyl phthalate (toxic to reproduction) Ramshot Nitro 100 NF N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Zip N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate #2 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate #5 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Silhouette N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot True Blue N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate TCM N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 4100 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Enforcer N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 11FS N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot X-Terminator N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2230 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot TAC N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Hunter N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Big Game N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Magnum N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2520 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Ramshot Competition N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate #7 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate #9 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 1680 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 5744 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2200 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2460 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2700 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate Magpro N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate Solo 1000 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate LT-30 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate LT-32 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2015 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 2495 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 4064 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Accurate 4350 N Dibutyl Phthalate (toxic to reproduction). Ramshot looking to change formula "within the next year or so". Ramshot Blackhorn 209 N/A Inconclusive (ingredients witheld as trade secret) Vihtavuori N100 series Y Vihtavuori N300 series Y Vihtavuori N500 series Y Reload Swiss RS12 Y Reload Swiss RS20 Y Reload Swiss RS24 Y Reload Swiss RS30 Y Reload Swiss RS36 Y Reload Swiss RS40 Y Reload Swiss RS50 Y Reload Swiss RS52 Y Reload Swiss RS60 Y Reload Swiss RS62 Y Reload Swiss RS70 Y Reload Swiss RS80 Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Dette var interessante opplysninger, @Sunnmøring. Heldigvis er vihta- kruttene stuerene. Jeg ser at Norma (samt vectan og lovex) ikke står på lista. Men reloaderserien til Alliant er tydligvis «haram», og flere av reloaderkruttene (15 og 22, iallefall) er vel tilnærmet identisk med normakrutt. Kanskje norma må endre på oppskriften sin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnmøring Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 @spindrift Vet ikke hvorfor Norma ikke står på listen, men Vhitavouri opplyser i hvert fall på sine hjemmesider at alt deres krutt er STANAG 4170 qualified and REACH compliant. (STANAG4170 er mil/NATO godkjenning) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per-S Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Krutt som produseres innen EU kommer ikke på denne listen. Liste er bare for import til EU. Internt i EU må kruttene oppfylle kravene for i det hele tatt å kunne produseres. De helsefarlige stoffene er ulovlige å bruke innen EU, og derfor kan disse stoffene ikke benyttes uten spesifikt unntak. Jeg har skrevet en del om dette i andre tråder, søk på REACH, ECHA og canidate list. Det kan forventes at DPA vil bli forbudt også, og produsenter erstatter den med Centralite og/eller Akardite som samtidig delvis vil fungere på samme måte som phthalater. Ikke bland STANAG 4170 inn i dette, den har helt andre krav og målsetninger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakapiken Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Ser at Imr 800x og 700x fortsatt kan selges. Fantastiske haglekrutt!! Trur det må feires med en syltynn Gammel Dansk.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culot Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 time siden, Hakapiken skrev: Ser at Imr 800x og 700x fortsatt kan selges Skulle ju vara enastående nyheter, håll mig uppdaterad om det blir tillgängligt så att jag kan skaffa en kanal för ett köp. /P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culot Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Gammaldansk +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M67 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 timer siden, Per-S skrev: Krutt som produseres innen EU kommer ikke på denne listen. Liste er bare for import til EU. Internt i EU må kruttene oppfylle kravene for i det hele tatt å kunne produseres. De helsefarlige stoffene er ulovlige å bruke innen EU, og derfor kan disse stoffene ikke benyttes uten spesifikt unntak. Hvorfor står Vithavuori på lista? Finland er da med i EU. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargen Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Mulig de eier en fabrikk utenfor EU kanskje? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per-S Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 timer siden, M67 skrev: Hvorfor står Vithavuori på lista? Finland er da med i EU. Jeg har ikke noe svar på det, men så lenge det er import og bruksforbud mot phthalater i EU er det uten betydning. En mulig men usannsynlig forklaring kan være at det finnes et unntak for produksjon av visse kruttyper til militære formål ved fabrikken og at de andre derfor er listet som OK. Dette er mye mer innfløkt enn det som kommer frem i media. Forbudet gjelder for det som betegnes som "substances", der gjelder import og bruksforbud dersom det ikke er innvilget unntak. For viktige formål der det var umulig eller der det krevde tid å finne erstattningstoffer var det mulig å få unntak, men fabrikkene ønsket ikke dette fordi det koster mye å gjennomføre en slik prosess, og prisen på forbudte råvarer vil stige mye. Vi prøvde å få krutt klassifisert som "articles", da ville de fortsatt kunne importeres og brukes. Dette var nesten i boks, men ECHA protesterte og forlangte ny vurdering, og importforbud ble resultatet. Jeg har sikkert skrevet det tidligere, men endringen i resepter på krutt på grunn av forbudet kan føre til endringer i lagringsegenskapene for krutt. Dette vil det ta tid å finne ut av. De fleste tester for akselrert lagring er kalibrert for kjemiske reaksjoner i kjente kruttyper, og endring i resepter kan føre til andre reaksjonsmekanismer. Migrering av myknere og brennhastighetsmodifiserende stoffer kan også bli endret. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ei tohi varjata Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Vihtavuori! Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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